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Against Tertullian (and other PPP's - Plural Persons Proponents)

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I cannot claim to make much sense out of the gobbledygook that Tertullian wrote back in 213AD, 113 years from the Apostolic period, (ending at 100AD) and ironically, 113 years to the fateful day in 325AD  Nicaea, give or take a year or two.


For certain, with writing like that, the simplicity of the Gospel had been done away with. To interpret his thesis you need the education of a Boston lawyer. Thank goodness we know that never was the way of Jesus or his apostles.


I was able to glean this much; Tertullian has a problem with the Father ‘suffering’ on the cross. How can it be – there is one God; and God took on the form of flesh – the flesh was not God – but he who dwelt in the flesh was God. So if God was in Christ, did God die? Did he even suffer? The answer to both of those questions is no and no.  What these ‘plural persons proponents’ fail to see, is that Jesus had a duel nature – he was both God and man; the flesh of Jesus, was not God – there is no such thing as God the Son! But the ‘son’ of God had a beginning – Bethlehem! And it has an end – 1 Corinthians 15:28, when God again becomes ‘all in all’.

In this respect, what happened to God happened to the Father, as Jesus is the ‘Everlasting Father’, just like he is also the Holy Ghost – the Spirit of God!


Act 20:28  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.


Did the Holy Ghost suffer? Jesus is the Holy Ghost, so in the flesh he shed his own blood. Just like he is the everlasting Father!


Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


That also answers how Jesus could pray to the Father. It would be an embarrassment if indeed he was ‘God the Son’ praying to ‘God the Father’ – I don’t see co-equal here and I certainly don’t see co-eternal if God the Son died. But I see Jesus in the flesh praying to the eternal Spirit of God – and suffering as fully human – and dying! Now it all makes sense.


A plurality of persons is pure Babylon but plurality of manifestations or modes – is biblical.


1Co 12:4  Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

1Co 12:5  And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.

1Co 12:6  And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

 

To the PPP crowd – I can only say…. You’ve come a long way, breaking from Rome. Don’t swallow Rome’s cardinal doctrine – a triune godhead:

 

Col 2:8  Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Col 2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Col 2:10  And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

 

… It’s All In Him!...

The Mighty God is Jesus, the Prince of Peace is He.

The Everlasting Father, The King eternally,

The Wonderful in wisdom, By whom all things were made,

The fullness of the Godhead in Jesus is displayed.

 

CHORUS:

It's all in Him, It's all in Him,

The fullness of the godhead,

It's all in Him.

It's all in Him, It's all in Him,

The mighty God is Jesus

And it's all in Him!

 

2.

Emmanuel, God with us, Jehovah, Lord of Hosts!

The Omnipresent Spirit Who fills the universe.

The Advocate, The High Priest, The Lamb for sinners slain,

The Author of redemption, O glory to His name!

 

3.

The Alpha and Omega, Beginning and the end,

The Living Word incarnate, The helpless sinners friend,

Our wisdom and perfection, Our righteousness and power

Yea, all we need in Jesus, We find this very hour.

 

4

Our God for whom we’ve waited Will be our glad refrain,

Of Israel recreated when Jesus comes again.

Lo, He will come and save us, Our King and Priest to be,

For in Him dwells all fullness, and Lord of All is He.